Talk:DRAFT - Hampedia Constitution

TO DO LIST
 * If user pages redirect to personal pages; user comments may not pop-up notification. We should switch this around.
 * Let us decide on the title.

Title
I think the title, "Rights, Rules, and Responsibilities" should be changed. It's too specific, yet arbitrary and vague (whose "responsibilities"?). It's gimmicky. It doesn't describe the content well, when the content is better established. And it definitely doesn't fit with the sub-headings. Constitutions don't need catchy titles, let's drop ours. -- Adam Krellenstein 22:18, 13 March 2008 (MST)
 * I agree. The limitation I find with just using the name Constitution is how are users going to get that the Constitution is a document is important when using Hampedia? Using the "Rights, Rules, and Responsibilities" as the title may help student to understand what the document is about  (Josehampediaacconut 23:13, 13 March 2008 (MST))
 * Only certain ramifications of the Constitution are relevant to the average user on a regular basis. These bits should be posted for viewing when students register for the first time, log-in and do any editing. I don't think "Rights, Rules and Responsibilities", because it is ambiguous as to its subject, will seem particularly important to most users. Also, as I said above, the sub-headings explain the document much better than the current title. In any case, the word "constitution" generally carries with it a lot of weight; it need not be augmented by. -- Adam Krellenstein 04:02, 14 March 2008 (MST)
 * I think all parts of the constitution, as it stands right now, are important for users; both because they set rules of behavior and the limits of use... I think that when people log into Hampedia to edit something we could have a list or a statement about the proper conduct, which does not need to necessarily include all the constitution. Maybe we can call this initial statement "Right, Rules, and Responsibilities".
 * I think that simply calling it the Hampedia Constitution is good. I think, as you guys said, that some of the info can be integrated into the tutorials. I've been brainstorming those, hopefully tomorrow I'll work on them. Agv07 19:43, 14 March 2008 (MST)
 * This is a semi-formal document, for an audience that is not primarily students. Students will be reading something else (which I will draw up and will include a lot more than just this). We certainly will have such a description of proper conduct at all times users log in. But this is not the Constitution's role. I don't think I understand why you, Jose, are so attached to the three words "Rights, Rules and Responsibilities"? These are vague, and they don't describe the material well. What initial statement are you proposing we label this way? What relevant prose could be appropriately headed by this title? -- Adam Krellenstein 20:45, 14 March 2008 (MST)

License
Any opinions on the license we have chosen to use on Hampedia?
 * I saw the draft before you decided to use CC, and I was going to recommend it. I wholeheartedly approve. ^-^ Agv07 19:47, 14 March 2008 (MST)
 * I approve also. -- Adam Krellenstein 20:45, 14 March 2008 (MST)

Grammar and Clarity
I was unsure of what you meant by "All office actions and policy decisions of the Board are final, if discussable." The "if discussable" part puzzles me, do you mean, "final, but discussable"? Sorry, I'm just a little confused by that bit. Other than that, I'm overall very impressed by the Constitution. =) Agv07 19:47, 14 March 2008 (MST)
 * What I meant was all policy decisions are open to appeal. I should probably have said just that... -- Adam Krellenstein 20:45, 14 March 2008 (MST)


 * Agreed. Just saying that would be much clearer. ^-^ Agv07 19:59, 15 March 2008 (MST)